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      vmi @foxthefox last edited by

      @foxthefox

      anbei ...

      payload from SP10ZEW5ZEAxxxxx was: {"params":{"backupCmdChCtrlInfos":[{"powCh":0,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":0},{"powCh":0,"ctrlSta":1,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":0}],"gridDayWatth":3145.173,"backupFullCap":380000,"errorCodes":[0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],"workTime":8666759715,"backupBatPer":71,"backupDayWatth":2750.5208,"loadCmdChCtrlInfos":[{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":0},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":1},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":2},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":3},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":4},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":5},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":6},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":7},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":8},{"powCh":1,"ctrlSta":0,"ctrlMode":0,"priority":9}],"cmdSet":11,"backupChaTime":18500,"gridSta":1,"time":{"week":5,"year":2024,"sec":3,"min":13,"hour":19,"month":3,"day":1},"id":2,"energyInfos":[{"dischargeTime":143999,"mulPackNum":2,"stateBean":{"isPowerOutput":0,"isConnect":1,"isEnable":1,"isGridCharge":0,"isMpptCharge":0,"isAcOpen":0},"outputPower":0,"lcdInputWatts":0,"fullCap":80000,"chargeTime":143999,"emsChgFlag":0,"type":14,"emsBatTemp":26,"ratePower":3600,"batteryPercentage":63,"oilPackNum":0},{"dischargeTime":3347,"mulPackNum":1,"stateBean":{"isPowerOutput":1,"isConnect":1,"isEnable":1,"isGridCharge":0,"isMpptCharge":0,"isAcOpen":1},"outputPower":0,"lcdInputWatts":23,"fullCap":80000,"chargeTime":143999,"emsChgFlag":0,"type":14,"emsBatTemp":26,"ratePower":3600,"batteryPercentage":84,"oilPackNum":0}]},"version":"1.0","cmdId":0,"cmdFunc":0,"id":1671436131967198200,"addr":0,"timestamp":1709316775912}

      bekomme auch bei den Delta Pros noch ein paar Warnmeldungen:

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        foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

        @vmi
        Danke.

        Kann sein, dass es mit ner neuen FW auch neue Datenpunkte gibt, mach in der nächsten Version mit dazu.

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          vmi @foxthefox last edited by

          @foxthefox

          Die Steuerung über die ecoflow App sieht wie folgt aus ...

          SHP Starseite:

          Screenshot_20240307_072738.jpg

          Steuerung AC Laden pro Delta pro

          Screenshot_20240307_072750.jpg

          Stromkreise SHP (10 Stück)

          Screenshot_20240307_072708.jpg

          Einstellung der Stromkreise

          Screenshot_20240307_072727.jpg

          über die Automation wird die Leistung bzw. welche Delta pro oder obe beide geladen werden gesteuert

          Screenshot_20240307_072807.jpg

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            foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

            @vmi
            Super, Danke.

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              vmi @foxthefox last edited by

              @foxthefox

              Screenshot für das manuelle umschalten der Stromkreise, Auto-Modus muss aus sein, dann kommt der Menü-Punkt

              6bd662f2-c658-48c6-b1a7-7d0012661724-grafik.png

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                foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by foxthefox

                @vmi
                Alles klar, 3 Zustände Netz/Akku/Aus
                Danke, jetzt ist es klar

                laut Ecoflow "0 Grid supply, 1 storage power supply, 2 close"

                close scheint da wohl falsch zu sein, weil ein geschlossener Kontakt einen EIN-Zustand darstellt 😉

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                  vmi @foxthefox last edited by

                  @foxthefox

                  aktuell kommen von der API Werte welche nicht ganz passen können ....

                  d9355ce1-65f6-4dea-b811-7dfb43143a62-grafik.png

                  Eine Idee woher das kommt, oder hat ecoflow mal wieder etwwas geändert?

                  Firmware der Geräte ist unverändert.

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                    foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

                    @vmi

                    Keine Ahnung ob Ecoflow was geändert hat, aber es kann ja auch sein, daß ich noch nicht die richtigen Grenzen hinterlegt habe. Oder ein Multiplikator falsch ist.
                    Manchmal kommt auch beim Start der Powerstation erstmal Unfug, allerdings um 12:30 ist es wohl eher nicht der Start der Powerstation.

                    Welcher Typ von Powerstation ist es denn?

                    Tendenziell finde ich >80°C als Temperatur schon grenzwertig, sofern es sich um echte Werte handelt.
                    Wieviel Solareingangsleistung war denn in dem Moment realistisch, bzw. was hat die App dazu angezeigt.
                    1600W wäre die Grenze für Delta Pro, da muß ich wohl noch etwas hochsetzen.

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                      vmi @foxthefox last edited by vmi

                      @foxthefox sagte in Neuer Adapter ecoflow-mqtt:

                      nziell finde ich >80°C als Temperatur schon grenzwertig, sofern es sich um echte Werte handelt.
                      Wieviel Solareingangsleistung war denn in dem Moment realistisch, bzw. was hat die App dazu angezeigt.
                      1600W wäre die Grenze für Delta Pro, da muß ich wohl noch etwas hochsetzen.

                      Die Powerstationen sind zwei Delta Pros. Temperatur kann ich nicht beurteilen, aber vermutlich auch so falsch wie die PV Input Leistung. Firmware der Delta Pros ist die 1.0.1.67
                      Der Solareingang war ca. 250 - 320 Watt, stark bewölkt.

                      Gerade das selbe Bild ... die Daten unter mptt bei Solar können so nicht ganz stimmen.
                      Habe diese mal rot markiert.

                      6dbbe4cc-b4b1-4f4d-a430-df825c350aaf-grafik.png

                      Ist bei beiden Delta Pros das selbe Bild.
                      In der App wurden zu dem Zeitpunkt etwas zwischen 120 - 270 Watt angezeigt.

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                        vmi @foxthefox last edited by

                        @foxthefox

                        bin jetzt weiter, also bei in Watts wird 7270 W angezeigt, aber es sind laut APP 727 W

                        inAmp und inVol müsten dann auch angepasst werden weil sich sonst nicht die Summe in Watt ergibt

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                        Alles für die Delta Pro

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                          foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

                          @vmi
                          Danke für die Info.
                          Ich muß mal die Daten zusammentragen, evtl. kann auch ein anderer Besitzer einer DeltaPro gegenprüfen.

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                            foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by foxthefox

                            @vmi

                            inAmp wird mit 0.01 multipliziert
                            inVol wird mit 0.1 multipliziert
                            inWatts wird mit 0.1 multipliziert

                            Ich kenne die PV-module an dem Eingang nicht, aber ich denke inAmp ist korrekt, inVol müsste 109,2V sein um die 727W zu erhalten.
                            Demzufolge müsste der Faktor für inVol angepasst werden.

                            Wäre gut die Rohdaten zu sehen (debug modus und dann ein Häckchen bei msgSetGet und dann latestQuotas bedienen).

                            Edit:
                            und dann noch mit den gestern übermittelten 16010W querverglichen, die ja mit 0.1 schon multipliziert waren, ist es noch komischer.

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                              vmi @foxthefox last edited by vmi

                              @foxthefox

                              die PV Module (JW-HD120N385) sind je 3 in Reihe und 3 Paralle. (385 Watt, Imp 10,97A, Vmp 35,1 V)

                              16010W würden ja 1,6 KW entsprechen, das ist die maximale Leistung am Solareingang. Maximale Eingangspannung ist 150 Volt.

                              Demnach würde Deine Annahme mit dem multipliziern stimmen.

                              Hier noch die Debug-Info:

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                                vmi @foxthefox last edited by

                                @foxthefox

                                jetz mit nur msgSetGet:

                                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                                  foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

                                  @vmi
                                  Super,
                                  "mppt.inAmp": 319, -> 0.01 -> 3mA -> kann passen
                                  "mppt.inVol": 730, -> 0.1 -> 73V -> etwas wenig bei 3 in Reihe, aber kann sein
                                  "mppt.inWatts": 2340, -> 0.1 -> 234W -> ist wohl falsch, ich mach den Faktor erstmal auf 0.001

                                  gleich noch was neues entdeckt:
                                  bmsMaster/Slave1.diffSoc
                                  bmsMaster/Slave1.packSn

                                  mach ich auch noch mit ins Datenmodell

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                                    vmi @foxthefox last edited by

                                    @foxthefox

                                    Wenn ich es "Rückwärts" betrachte P=U*I

                                    => I= P/U => 234W/3,19A=73,35V

                                    ich denke die mppt.inAmp könnten ohne multiplizieren (0,01) passen, wären dann aber 3,19A.
                                    Volt mit 0,1 =73 Volt
                                    Watt mit 0,1 = 234 Watt

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                                      foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

                                      @vmi sagte in Neuer Adapter ecoflow-mqtt:

                                      73,35V

                                      So herum kann man auch herangehen, das müsstest du dann beurteilen, was da richtiger ist.
                                      Für mich ist es recht einfach die Dinge hinzustellen, da die Multiplikation ein Parameter ist.

                                      73V bei 3 Panelen in Reihe dürfte wohl eher in Schwachlichtsituation sein, also eher nicht die 234W.
                                      Bei mir mit 3x18,5V hab ich ähnliche Effekte am Morgen und bekomme 40V angezeigt und später sind wir dann bei 60V.

                                      Wenn ich die 0.1 Multiplikation bei inWatt lasse, dann haben wir wieder die 16kW von der anderen Beobachtung.

                                      Ich mach erstmal die neue Version fertig und dann nähern wir uns iterativ zu den richtigen Werten.
                                      Bin nur in der letzten Zeit nicht dazu gekommen, hatte noch ein paar andere Dinge um die Ohren.

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                                        vmi @foxthefox last edited by vmi

                                        @foxthefox

                                        Guten Morgen, werde einfach mal ein Multimeter dazischen hängen um die Ampere zu messen und danach dann paralle um die Volt zu messen. Ich denke so kommen wir am schnellsten ans Ziel.

                                        Dann können wir die Messwerte mit den Werte der API vergleichen ...

                                        Werde aber erst am nächsten Wochenende dazu kommen ...

                                        Neue Version hört sich gut an. Wie weit bist Du mit der SHP Integration?

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                                          foxthefox Developer @vmi last edited by

                                          @vmi

                                          Messen ist noch besser, mach aber nicht zu viel Umstände! Es reicht wenn halbwegs Sonne da ist und ein stabiler Wert abgelesen werden kann.
                                          Bei Schwachlicht kann es schon zu komischen Werten kommen. Die kommen dann auch nicht immer.

                                          SHP ist quasi fertig.
                                          Will noch ein paar Tests machen, soweit es ohne Gerät geht.

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                                            vmi @foxthefox last edited by

                                            @foxthefox

                                            bin auf die SHP Integration gespannt und werde fleissig testen 😉

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