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    • Aphofis
      Aphofis @mickym last edited by

      @mickym so habe die In node jetzt so eingestellt.
      Jetzt bleibt die Lampe aus bis BWM ode Lcihtschaltet aktiviert wird.
      Sind die einstellungen OK so !?
      Screenshot 2024-08-22 224331.png

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      • mickym
        mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

        @aphofis

        Ja das ist schon OK - das hätte bedeutet, dass der Schalter mehrfach den Datenpunkt aktualisiert hat und insofern getriggert hat. (Hättest Du aber an einem Debug Node sehen müssen, wenn Du diesen direkt an die iobroker IN Node klemmst. Nun filtert die Node, dass nur noch Wertänderungen durchkommen. Das ist OK - aber wie gesagt, dass müsstest Du an einer Debug Node erkennen müssen, die direkt an der iobroker-IN Node klemmt.

        Also das ist OK - weil nun halt nur noch Wertänderungen triggern.

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        • Aphofis
          Aphofis @mickym last edited by

          @mickym an die In Node habe ich natürlich keine Debug gehängt.

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          • mickym
            mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by mickym

            @aphofis sagte in 2 Bewegungsmelder (Aqara) sollen einen Lampe schalten:

            @mickym an die In Node habe ich natürlich keine Debug gehängt.

            Ja das ist aber wichtig, um zu erkennen, ob der Datenpunkt Dauerfeuer gibt. Aber nun hast Du ja auf Wertänderungen gefiltert. Das ist OK - und wie gesagt, dass hängt halt von der Hardware ab.

            Wenn man mit der Fehlersuche beginnt, beginnt man immer ganz vorne am Trigger und arbeitet sich dann nach hinten und schaut, ob das erwartete Ergebnis kommt oder die Nachrichten verschluckt werden.

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            • Aphofis
              Aphofis @mickym last edited by

              @mickym für die Zukunft, fange ich vorne an.
              War noch ein Fehler, hatte den kompletten Flow kopiert für die Küche und eine out node stand noch auf das Tuya Gerät vom Badlichtschalter. Dann kann das auch nicht laufen. War also ein fehler meinerseits.

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              • Aphofis
                Aphofis @Aphofis last edited by

                Ich sage mal Gute Nacht!

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                • mickym
                  mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

                  @aphofis Ja dann schlaf mal gut

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                  • Aphofis
                    Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                    @mickym Danke war etwas kurze Nacht.
                    Irgendwas ist falsch ! Ich finde nur leider den Fehler nicht.
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                    Screenshot 2024-08-23 203849.png

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                    • Aphofis
                      Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                      @mickym Fehler gefunden warum da so ein wirrwarr war. Ist sogar kompletter Iobroker stehen geblieben.
                      Schaltung läuft jetzt prima. Nur wenn durch den BWM wieder bewegung ist, bleibt das Licht nicht nicht an. Gibt es da eine Funktion um das zu realisieren !?

                      Screenshot 2024-08-24 101551.png

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                      Also bei Bewegung schaltet Licht an und bleibt für eingestellte Zeit an.
                      Wenn Roboter Sauger aktiv ist bleibt auch bei BWM Licht aus.
                      Wenn man Lichtschalter betätigt, bleibt Licht für eingestellte Zeit an.
                      ISt der Roboter Sauger beim laden in der Station Funktioniert der BWM wieder.
                      Den Lichtschalter kann man immer benutzen und bleibt auch beim Reinigen des roboters für eingestellte Zeit an.

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                      • mickym
                        mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

                        @aphofis sagte in 2 Bewegungsmelder (Aqara) sollen einen Lampe schalten:

                        Nur wenn durch den BWM wieder bewegung ist, bleibt das Licht nicht nicht an.

                        Na dann schau halt ob die Zeitspanne in der Trigger Node verlängert wird, wenn erneut true gemeldet wird und du auch in der iobroker-in Node nicht filterst, dass nur Wertänderungen durchkommen.

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                        • Aphofis
                          Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                          @mickym
                          Ich sagte ja fehler hab ich gefunden.
                          Die Steuerung läuft
                          Bis auf das wenn man den Schalter betätigt und in der BWM läuft geht die Timeout Node auch an und Licht schaltet nach 2 min ab als ob die node bwm nicht aussen vor ist sondern immer funktioniert

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                            mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

                            @aphofis sagte in 2 Bewegungsmelder (Aqara) sollen einen Lampe schalten:

                            Bis auf das wenn man den Schalter betätigt und in der BWM läuft geht die Timeout Node auch an und Licht schaltet nach 2 min ab als ob die node bwm nicht aussen vor ist sondern immer funktioniert

                            Dann könnte es daran liegen, dass wenn der Schalter eingeschaltet wird, kurz vorher aber noch der BWM getriggert hat (z. Bsp. weil der Schalter in dem entsprechenden Raum ist) und in der Triggernode schon der Timer läuft. Dann würde ich vom Schalter noch ein msg.reset = true in die Triggernode schicken.

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                              Aphofis @mickym last edited by

                              @mickym
                              Hab den letzten Fehler gefunden.
                              Falsche Verknüpfung, jetzt gehts.
                              Screenshot 2024-08-24 163342.png

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                                mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

                                @aphofis Na das macht keinen Sinn, aber musst Du wissen.

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                                • Aphofis
                                  Aphofis @mickym last edited by

                                  @mickym Ne klappt auch nicht wirklich!
                                  Ein Inject Node ist auch nicht das selbe wie ein echter BWM

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                                  • mickym
                                    mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by

                                    @aphofis sagte in 2 Bewegungsmelder (Aqara) sollen einen Lampe schalten:

                                    @mickym Ne klappt auch nicht wirklich!
                                    Ein Inject Node ist auch nicht das selbe wie ein echter BWM

                                    Ein Inject Node macht das, was der iobroker-In Node auch macht. Eine Nachricht erzeugen, die auf die Reise geschickt wird. Ich habe Dir ja meine Vermutung in dem unteren Post geschildert. Aber das was Du da machst entbehrt halt jeder Logik.

                                    Entweder lässt man den BWM ausschalten oder den Trigger. Wie gesagt, unten habe ich Dir ja die Lösung insoweit aufgeschrieben, wenn der BWM kurz vor dem Betätigen des Schalters triggert (also innerhalb der 3 Minuten).

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                                      Aphofis @mickym last edited by Aphofis

                                      So funktioniert alles wie es soll.
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                                      Wenn BWM Signal hat geht licht für 2 min an. wenn roboter sauger nihct beim laden ist. bleibt BWM inaktiv.
                                      Schaltet man den Lichtschalter geht nur der 45 min trigger an. auch wenn man in den BWM läuft bleibt 2 min trigger inaktiv. Ist der 45 min trigger abgelaufen geht der BWM ganz normal wieder außer natürlich der Roboter ist unterwegs.
                                      Für meine Zwecke ist das alles was ich wollte.

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                                      • mickym
                                        mickym Most Active @Aphofis last edited by mickym

                                        @aphofis Ich habe Dir doch gesagt, wie es geht. Geh halt nochmal auf den Flow zurück, den Du gehabt hast und resette die Trigger Node.

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                                        Sowas ist doch NUR Unsinn, sorry - aber da verstehst Du einfach nichts. Was macht ein switch für einen Sinn, wenn Du mit einem Kabel den switch ad absurdum führst und mit einer 2. Nachricht den switch umgehen kannst.

                                        AUch das letzte funktioniert nicht wie es soll, weil Du mit dem Schalter nicht ausschalten kannst.
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                                        Warum analysierst Du nicht, wie ich es gesagt habe. So wie es jetzt ist, kannst Du mt dem Schalter nicht ausschalten. Die Ursache, dass trotzdem Du den Schalter betätigt hast, liegt daran, dass wahrscheinlich der BWM bereits getriggert hat. Und das musst Du halt über einen msg.reset verhindern.

                                        Anonsten mische ich mich aber nicht mehr ein, wenn Du zufrieden bist. Jedenfalls wirst Du so mit dem Schalter das Licht nicht mehr ausschalten kannst und das Licht IMMER 45 min brennen, falls Du den Schalter betätigst.

                                        Geh auf diesen Flow zurück: https://forum.iobroker.net/post/1194557
                                        Und anschliessend setzt Du mit msg.reset die trigger Node des BWM zurück, wenn der Schalter betätigt wird. Wobei das obere Käse ist.

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                                        Nee das ist ja auch verkehrt - du hast den Flow so verhunagelt. Du hast ja die beiden Äste auch verändert. Das ist echt schwierig, wenn Du einfach darauf los machst ohne halt den Nachrichtenflow nachzuvollziehen und warum was wie gemacht wurde.

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                                        • mickym
                                          mickym Most Active last edited by mickym

                                          So probiere das nochmal:

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                                          Du musst allerdings die iobroker-IN und iobroker-OUT Nodes überprüfen, weil ich Deine Hardwarepunkte nicht habe.

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                                          Und falls Du jetzt neue Kabel ziehst oder die Logik veränderst, dann überleg Dir VORHER was das für Konsequenzen hat und was jetzt genau passiert.

                                          Beschreibe jedes Szenario mit Worten und mach nicht einfach.

                                          Ach und bitte DEAKTIVIERE Deine jetzigen Flows und Blocklies, damit die nicht dazwischen funken, sonst wird das nichts. Und wenn Du hier nicht exakt arbeitest - dann bin ich ziemlich machtlos.

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                                            @mickym
                                            Das sehr nett das du die Schaltung überarbeitet hast! Nein ich ändere da nichts dran.
                                            Nur nach einer Zeit auch wenn man nichts schaltet und auch nichts im BWM sich bewegt drehen die lampen durch und werden wie verrückt geschaltet.
                                            Wenn ich die komplette Node deaktiviere dann ist wieder alles normal.
                                            Kann das irgendwie sein, weil ja schalter küche so zu sagen in der Iobroker In node ist und in der schaltung alle drei geschaltet werden. da ja ganz oben habe ich ja eine schaltung die mit dem lichtschalter alle lampen zusammen ein und aus schaltet !?
                                            Ich habe jetzt an die schaltung mit dem Robo und BWM nur den lichtschalter als out node gelassen. da ja in der ersten schaltung schon alle drei lampen zusammen gefasst sind. vllt kommt die Rückkopplung daher.
                                            Weil der Lichschalter schaltet so zu sagen ja nur die Decke an/aus und die beiden LEd Stripes vom Sonoff und vom Tuya Gerät werden ja mit geschaltet durch die normale In/Out node geschichte.
                                            Screenshot 2024-08-26 180529.png

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