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      ralle @DJMarc75 last edited by Homoran

      @djmarc75 , Hallo anbei die "list", kannst du damit was anfangen

      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ iob list instances
        system.adapter.admin.0                  : admin                 : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8081, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
        system.adapter.alexa2.0                 : alexa2                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.backitup.0               : backitup              : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.cloud.0                  : cloud                 : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.discovery.0              : discovery             : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.email.0                  : email                 : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.fb-checkpresence.0       : fb-checkpresence      : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.flot.0                   : flot                  : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.history.0                : history               : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.icons-fatcow-hosting.0   : icons-fatcow-hosting  : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.icons-material-svg.0     : icons-material-svg    : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.icons-open-icon-library-png.0: icons-open-icon-library-png: raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.icons-ultimate-png.0     : icons-ultimate-png    : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.iot.0                    : iot                   : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.meross.0                 : meross                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.net-tools.0              : net-tools             : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.ping.0                   : ping                  : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.shelly.0                 : shelly                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 1882, bind: 0.0.0.0
        system.adapter.solarmanpv.0             : solarmanpv            : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.sonoff.0                 : sonoff                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 1883, bind: 0.0.0.0
        system.adapter.tankerkoenig.0           : tankerkoenig          : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.tuya.0                   : tuya                  : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.tuya.1                   : tuya                  : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vaillant.0               : vaillant              : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-bars.0               : vis-bars              : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-fancyswitch.0        : vis-fancyswitch       : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-hqwidgets.0          : vis-hqwidgets         : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-icontwo.0            : vis-icontwo           : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-justgage.0           : vis-justgage          : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-metro.0              : vis-metro             : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-plumb.0              : vis-plumb             : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-rgraph.0             : vis-rgraph            : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis-timeandweather.0     : vis-timeandweather    : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.vis.0                    : vis                   : raspberrypi                              -  enabled
        system.adapter.web.0                    : web                   : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8082, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
        system.adapter.ws.0                     : ws                    : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8084, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
      
      + instance is alive
      

      MOD-EDIT: Code-tags korrigiert

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      • Thomas Braun
        Thomas Braun Most Active @ralle last edited by

        @ralle sagte in IoBroker abstürze !:

        (hab nur 1GB Ram).

        Vielviel zu wenig.

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        • Homoran
          Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @ralle last edited by

          @ralle 36 Instanzen???

          bei 1GB RAM ist bei 10-15 schon Ende der Fahnenstange!

          aber warum läuft gar nichts?

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            ralle @Homoran last edited by

            @homoran
            Hallo,

            seit 3-4 Tage stürzt er immer öfter ab wenn ich den IOB aufrufe und 2 - 3 Klicks mache,
            Unter anderem hatte ich 4 Updates gefahren und ich meine dann hat es sich gehäuft.
            Abstürze hatte ich davor nur ab und zu mal...

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            • Thomas Braun
              Thomas Braun Most Active @ralle last edited by

              @ralle

              Eigentlich mit 1GB RAM ein sinnloses Unterfangen...
              Was sagt

              iob diag
              

              denn nun?

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              • bahnuhr
                bahnuhr Forum Testing Most Active @ralle last edited by

                @ralle

                Eigentlich doch ganz einfach.
                Streiche alle Instanzen damit du max. 10 hast.

                Oder kauf dir ein ordentliches System

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                  ralle @Thomas Braun last edited by ralle

                  @thomas-braun anbei IOB diag.....

                  Skript v.2022-12-13
                  
                  *** BASE SYSTEM ***
                  Model           : Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Plus Rev 1.3
                  Architecture:   armv7l
                  Docker:         false
                  Virtualization: none
                  Distributor ID: Raspbian
                  Description:    Raspbian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
                  Release:        11
                  Codename:       bullseye
                  
                  PRETTY_NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)"
                  NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux"
                  VERSION_ID="11"
                  VERSION="11 (bullseye)"
                  VERSION_CODENAME=bullseye
                  ID=raspbian
                  ID_LIKE=debian
                  HOME_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/"
                  SUPPORT_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianForums"
                  BUG_REPORT_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianBugs"
                  
                  Systemuptime and Load:
                   21:34:14 up 2 days,  7:21,  3 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.21, 0.36
                  CPU threads: 4
                  
                  *** Time and Time Zones ***
                  Wed Dec 28 20:34:14 UTC 2022
                  Wed Dec 28 21:34:14 CET 2022
                  CET +0100
                  Europe/Berlin
                  
                  *** User and Groups ***
                  pi
                  /home/pi
                  pi adm dialout cdrom sudo audio video plugdev games users input render netdev lpadmin gpio i2c spi iobroker
                  
                  *** X-Server-Setup ***
                  X-Server:       true
                  Desktop:
                  Terminal:       tty
                  
                  *** MEMORY ***
                                 total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                  Mem:            922M        751M         29M        0.0K        140M        146M
                  Swap:            99M         99M          0B
                  Total:          1.0G        851M         29M
                  
                            922 M total memory
                            751 M used memory
                            104 M active memory
                            692 M inactive memory
                             29 M free memory
                             15 M buffer memory
                            124 M swap cache
                             99 M total swap
                             99 M used swap
                              0 M free swap
                  
                  *** FILESYSTEM ***
                  Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
                  /dev/root      ext4       15G  7.1G  6.6G  52% /
                  devtmpfs       devtmpfs  333M     0  333M   0% /dev
                  tmpfs          tmpfs     462M     0  462M   0% /dev/shm
                  tmpfs          tmpfs     185M  1.1M  184M   1% /run
                  tmpfs          tmpfs     5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
                  /dev/mmcblk0p1 vfat      255M   50M  206M  20% /boot
                  tmpfs          tmpfs      93M   20K   93M   1% /run/user/1000
                  
                  Show mounted filesystems (real ones only):
                  TARGET  SOURCE         FSTYPE OPTIONS
                  /       /dev/mmcblk0p2 ext4   rw,noatime
                  `-/boot /dev/mmcblk0p1 vfat   rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro
                  
                  Files in neuralgic directories:
                  
                  /var:
                  1.8G    /var/
                  1.4G    /var/log/journal/9de79e4d9feb4ead979df62e580afcd8
                  1.4G    /var/log/journal
                  1.4G    /var/log
                  123M    /var/lib
                  
                  /opt/iobroker/backups:
                  53M     /opt/iobroker/backups/
                  
                  /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data:
                  393M    /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/
                  322M    /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files
                  78M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files/icons-open-icon-library-png
                  37M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/backup-objects
                  30M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files/icons-open-icon-library-png/apps
                  
                  The five largest files in iobroker-data are:
                  12M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/states.jsonl
                  11M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/objects.jsonl
                  9.1M    /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files/echarts.admin/static/js/2.bbf74d5f.chunk.js.map
                  8.9M    /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files/echarts/static/js/2.3d2d025f.chunk.js.map
                  8.9M    /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/files/echarts.admin/chart/static/js/2.3d2d025f.chunk.js.map
                  
                  *** NodeJS-Installation ***
                  
                  /usr/bin/nodejs         v16.19.0
                  /usr/bin/node           v16.19.0
                  /usr/bin/npm            8.19.3
                  
                  nodejs:
                    Installed: 16.19.0-deb-1nodesource1
                    Candidate: 16.19.0-deb-1nodesource1
                    Version table:
                   *** 16.19.0-deb-1nodesource1 500
                          500 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_16.x bullseye/main armhf Packages
                          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
                       12.22.12~dfsg-1~deb11u1 500
                          500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian bullseye/main armhf Packages
                  
                  Temp directories causing npm8 problem: 0
                  
                  *** ioBroker-Installation ***
                  
                  ioBroker Status
                  iobroker is running on this host.
                  
                  
                  Objects type: jsonl
                  States  type: jsonl
                  
                  Core adapters versions
                  js-controller:  4.0.23
                  admin:          6.3.5
                  
                  Adapters from github:   4
                  
                  Enabled adapters with bindings
                  + system.adapter.admin.0                  : admin                 : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8081, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
                  + system.adapter.shelly.0                 : shelly                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 1882, bind: 0.0.0.0
                  + system.adapter.sonoff.0                 : sonoff                : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 1883, bind: 0.0.0.0
                  + system.adapter.web.0                    : web                   : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8082, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
                  + system.adapter.ws.0                     : ws                    : raspberrypi                              -  enabled, port: 8084, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
                  
                  ioBroker-Repositories
                  stable        : http://download.iobroker.net/sources-dist.json
                  beta          : http://download.iobroker.net/sources-dist-latest.json
                  
                  Active repo(s): stable
                  
                  ioBroker-Instances
                  Used repository: stable
                  Adapter    "admin"        : 6.3.5    , installed 6.3.5
                  Adapter    "alexa2"       : 3.23.2   , installed 3.23.2
                  Adapter    "backitup"     : 2.5.9    , installed 2.5.9
                  Adapter    "bidirectional-counter": 2.0.8, installed 2.0.8
                  Adapter    "birthdays"    : 2.1.0    , installed 2.1.0
                  Adapter    "chromecast"   : 2.3.1    , installed 2.3.1
                  Adapter    "cloud"        : 4.3.0    , installed 4.3.0
                  Adapter    "daswetter"    : 3.1.4    , installed 3.1.4
                  Adapter    "discovery"    : 3.1.0    , installed 3.1.0
                  Adapter    "drag-indicator": 2.0.9   , installed 2.0.9
                  Adapter    "ebus"         : 3.0.7    , installed 3.0.7
                  Adapter    "echarts"      : 1.0.12   , installed 1.0.12
                  Adapter    "email"        : 1.1.4    , installed 1.1.4
                  Adapter    "fb-checkpresence": 1.1.20, installed 1.1.20
                  Adapter    "feiertage"    : 1.1.0    , installed 1.1.0
                  Adapter    "flot"         : 1.11.0   , installed 1.11.0
                  Adapter    "fritzbox"     : 0.2.1    , installed 0.2.1
                  Adapter    "fritzdect"    : 2.2.6    , installed 2.2.6
                  Adapter    "fullcalendar" : 1.2.0    , installed 1.2.0
                  Adapter    "habpanel"     : 0.5.0    , installed 0.5.0
                  Adapter    "ham"          : 5.3.1    , installed 5.3.1
                  Adapter    "history"      : 2.2.4    , installed 2.2.4
                  Adapter    "hue-extended" : 2.0.0    , installed 2.0.0
                  Adapter    "ical"         : 1.13.2   , installed 1.13.2
                  Adapter    "icons-addictive-flavour-png": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
                  Adapter    "icons-fatcow-hosting": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
                  Adapter    "icons-icons8" : 0.0.1    , installed 0.0.1
                  Adapter    "icons-material-png": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
                  Adapter    "icons-material-svg": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
                  Adapter    "icons-open-icon-library-png": 0.1.2, installed 0.1.2
                  Adapter    "icons-ultimate-png": 1.0.1, installed 1.0.1
                  Adapter    "info"         : 1.9.19   , installed 1.9.19
                  Adapter    "iot"          : 1.11.9   , installed 1.11.9
                  Adapter    "jarvis"       : 3.1.2    , installed 3.1.2
                  Controller "js-controller": 4.0.23   , installed 4.0.23
                  Adapter    "material"     : 1.1.2    , installed 1.1.2
                  Adapter    "mercury"      : 0.1.5    , installed 0.1.5
                  Adapter    "meross"       : 1.14.0   , installed 1.14.0
                  Adapter    "net-tools"    : 0.2.0    , installed 0.2.0
                  Adapter    "nina"         : 0.0.25   , installed 0.0.25
                  Adapter    "openhab"      : 1.1.0    , installed 1.1.0
                  Adapter    "openweathermap": 0.3.3   , installed 0.3.3
                  Adapter    "operating-hours": 0.0.19 , installed 0.0.19
                  Adapter    "ping"         : 1.5.3    , installed 1.5.3
                  Adapter    "pvforecast"   : 2.3.0    , installed 2.3.0
                  Adapter    "samsung"      : 0.5.11   , installed 0.5.11
                  Adapter    "selverf"      : 0.6.2    , installed 0.6.2
                  Adapter    "shelly"       : 6.0.0    , installed 6.0.0
                  Adapter    "shuttercontrol": 1.4.18  , installed 1.4.18
                  Adapter    "simple-api"   : 2.7.2    , installed 2.7.2
                  Adapter    "smartmeter"   : 3.3.4    , installed 3.3.4
                  Adapter    "socketio"     : 4.2.0    , installed 4.2.0
                  Adapter    "sonoff"       : 2.5.1    , installed 2.5.1
                  Adapter    "tahoma"       : 0.7.1    , installed 0.7.1
                  Adapter    "tankerkoenig" : 3.1.0    , installed 3.1.0
                  Adapter    "tr-064"       : 4.2.17   , installed 4.2.17
                  Adapter    "tuya"         : 3.11.1   , installed 3.11.1
                  Adapter    "vaillant"     : 0.1.0    , installed 0.1.0
                  Adapter    "virtualpowermeter": 1.4.6, installed 1.4.6
                  Adapter    "vis"          : 1.4.15   , installed 1.4.15
                  Adapter    "vis-bars"     : 0.1.4    , installed 0.1.4
                  Adapter    "vis-fancyswitch": 1.1.0  , installed 1.1.0
                  Adapter    "vis-history"  : 1.0.0    , installed 1.0.0
                  Adapter    "vis-hqwidgets": 1.3.0    , installed 1.3.0
                  Adapter    "vis-icontwo"  : 0.90.0   , installed 0.90.0
                  Adapter    "vis-inventwo" : 3.3.1    , installed 3.3.1
                  Adapter    "vis-justgage" : 1.0.2    , installed 1.0.2
                  Adapter    "vis-metro"    : 1.2.0    , installed 1.2.0
                  Adapter    "vis-plumb"    : 1.0.2    , installed 1.0.2
                  Adapter    "vis-rgraph"   : 0.0.2    , installed 0.0.2
                  Adapter    "vis-timeandweather": 1.2.2, installed 1.2.2
                  Adapter    "web"          : 4.3.0    , installed 4.3.0
                  Adapter    "ws"           : 1.3.0    , installed 1.3.0
                  Adapter    "zigbee"       : 1.8.9    , installed 1.8.9
                  
                  Objects and States
                  Please stand by - This may take a while
                  Objects:        8305
                  States:         7014
                  
                  *** OS-Repositories and Updates ***
                  Hit:1 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian bullseye InRelease
                  Hit:2 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian bullseye InRelease
                  Hit:3 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_16.x bullseye InRelease
                  Reading package lists...
                  Pending Updates: 0
                  
                  *** Listening Ports ***
                  Active Internet connections (only servers)
                  Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       User       Inode      PID/Program name
                  tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1883            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1001       2200925    7861/io.sonoff.0
                  tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9001          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1001       2203071    7763/iobroker.js-co
                  tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9000          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1001       2203078    7763/iobroker.js-co
                  tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          14624      518/sshd: /usr/sbin
                  tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          1392503    24146/cupsd
                  tcp6       0      0 :::8081                 :::*                    LISTEN      1001       2199997    7781/io.admin.0
                  tcp6       0      0 :::8082                 :::*                    LISTEN      1001       2203592    8029/io.web.0
                  tcp6       0      0 :::8084                 :::*                    LISTEN      1001       2204764    8140/io.ws.0
                  tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      0          14626      518/sshd: /usr/sbin
                  tcp6       0      0 ::1:631                 :::*                    LISTEN      0          1392502    24146/cupsd
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6666            0.0.0.0:*                           1001       2200338    7927/io.tuya.0
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6667            0.0.0.0:*                           1001       2200339    7927/io.tuya.0
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5683            0.0.0.0:*                           1001       2199359    7850/io.shelly.0
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:631             0.0.0.0:*                           0          1393843    24150/cups-browsed
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5353            0.0.0.0:*                           108        13470      343/avahi-daemon: r
                  udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:47466           0.0.0.0:*                           108        13472      343/avahi-daemon: r
                  udp6       0      0 fe80::99bc:3003:7ac:546 :::*                                0          14697      363/NetworkManager
                  udp6       0      0 :::5353                 :::*                                108        13471      343/avahi-daemon: r
                  udp6       0      0 :::43838                :::*                                108        13473      343/avahi-daemon: r
                  
                  

                  ============ Mark until here for C&P =============

                  iob diag has finished.

                  ======================= SUMMARY =======================
                                          v.2022-12-13
                  
                  
                  Operatingsystem:        Raspbian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
                  Installation:           Native
                  Timezone:               Europe/Berlin
                  User-ID:                1000
                  X-Server:               true
                  
                  Pending OS-Updates:     0
                  
                  Nodejs-Installation:    /usr/bin/nodejs         v16.19.0
                                          /usr/bin/node           v16.19.0
                                          /usr/bin/npm            8.19.3
                  
                  ioBroker Core:          js-controller           4.0.23
                                          admin                   6.3.5
                  
                  ioBroker Status:        iobroker is running on this host.
                  
                  
                  Objects type: jsonl
                  States  type: jsonl
                  
                  Pending iob updates:    0
                  
                  Active repo(s): stable
                  
                  Objects:                8305
                  States:                 7014
                  
                  Size of iob-Database:
                  
                  11M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/objects.jsonl
                  13M     /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/states.jsonl
                  

                  ====================== END OF SUMMARY ==================

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                    ralle @Homoran last edited by

                    @homoran

                    Hallo,

                    Wie sind die Erfahrungen.. reichen 2 GB Arbeitsspeicher oder dann doch ein Raspberry mit 4 GB?

                    Ich möchte es auch nicht ausufern lassen.....

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                    • Thomas Braun
                      Thomas Braun Most Active @ralle last edited by

                      @ralle

                      Desktop AUS!
                      Du hast eh schon kein RAM. Wo willst du da noch was für einen Desktop hernehmen? Server IMMER ohne Desktop-Umgebung.

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                      • bahnuhr
                        bahnuhr Forum Testing Most Active @ralle last edited by

                        @ralle sagte in IoBroker abstürze !:

                        Ich möchte es auch nicht ausufern lassen.....

                        Auch du wächst mit den Möglichkeiten.

                        Warum nicht ein nuc, ordentlich GB drauf (bei mir 6 GB)

                        Damit hast du was schnelleres, keine Speicherprobleme mehr und eine SD kann auch nicht kaputt gehen (gibt ja keine).

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                          ralle @bahnuhr last edited by

                          @bahnuhr
                          was ist ein nuc?

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                          • bahnuhr
                            bahnuhr Forum Testing Most Active @ralle last edited by

                            @ralle

                            b11bbb15-09b3-4018-b925-e5d3c628b915-image.png

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                              ralle @Thomas Braun last edited by

                              @thomas-braun

                              Desktop aus ???

                              Ich bin absoluter Neuling hier

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                              • Homoran
                                Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @ralle last edited by

                                @ralle sagte in IoBroker abstürze !:

                                reichen 2 GB Arbeitsspeicher

                                reichen wofür?

                                mit Desktop auf dem Server?
                                schmeiß den mal als erstes runter!

                                aber warum läuft bei dir keine einzige Instanz?
                                und brauchst du wirklich 36 Instanzen?

                                wieviel werden es nächstes Jahr sein?

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                                • Thomas Braun
                                  Thomas Braun Most Active @ralle last edited by

                                  @ralle

                                  X-Server:       true
                                  

                                  sagt, dass da ein X-Server läuft.
                                  Der wird aber nur benötigt wenn man eine Desktop-Umgebung laufen hat.
                                  Server = Kein Desktop, also auch kein X-Server.

                                  sudo raspi-config
                                  

                                  Dann dort:

                                  1 System Options       
                                  S5 Boot / Auto Login 
                                  B1 Console           
                                  
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                                  • Peoples
                                    Peoples @ralle last edited by Peoples

                                    @ralle
                                    Hier auch ein Nuc, mal ganz uneigennützig 🙂
                                    Marktplatz

                                    Aber ich denke in deinem Fall derzeit nicht notwendig

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