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    • Homoran
      Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @Rababersaft last edited by

      @rababersaft sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

      Der Zähler sendet pro Sekunde einen Datensatz im push-Betrieb.

      nicht bidirektional

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      • Rababersaft
        Rababersaft last edited by

        @homoran @klassisch

        Danke für die schnellen Antworten, das habe ich auch gedacht, jedoch bekomme ich dann im Debug dieses und das jede menge ...

        
        smartmeter.0
        2021-11-16 20:26:51.038	debug	MATCH-RESULT MESSAGE: 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-> null
        
        smartmeter.0
        2021-11-16 20:26:51.035	debug	ADD NEW DATA (12291 + NEW 18)
        
        smartmeter.0
        2021-11-16 20:26:51.022	debug	MATCH-RESULT MESSAGE: 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-> null
        
        smartmeter.0
        2021-11-16 20:26:51.019	debug	ADD NEW DATA (12274 + NEW 17)
        
        smartmeter.0
        2021-11-16 20:26:51.005	debug	MATCH-RESULT MESSAGE: 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        Ich denke schon fast, das der Adapter die werte nicht lesen kann?

        Hier sind mal alle Werte die ich habe vom Zähler.
        Spricht der evtl. eine andere Sprache? Oder sehe ich den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht?

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        • Homoran
          Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @Rababersaft last edited by

          @rababersaft sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

          das der Adapter die werte nicht lesen kann?

          hast du einen verschlüsselten Zähler?

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            klassisch Most Active @Rababersaft last edited by

            @rababersaft Bei mir ist der Haken bei CRC Kontrolle ignorieren NICHT drin.

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            • Rababersaft
              Rababersaft @Homoran last edited by

              @homoran

              eigentlich nicht.

              Hier mal die Daten des Zählers, vllt kannst du damit was anfangen. Auf Seite 11 ist sogar das Protokoll beschrieben.

              eBZ_Betriebsanleitung_DD3.pdf

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                klassisch Most Active @Rababersaft last edited by

                @rababersaft sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

                Ich habe meinen Stromzähler (eBZ DD3 BZ06 ETA-ODZ1)
                für OD-Typen:
                Telegramm Mode 😧
                Format:
                fürSM-Typen:
                Format:
                nach DIN EN 625056-21 (für OD-Typen)
                9600 Baud (Z=5); (7,even, 1)
                9600 Baud; (8, none, 1)*

                Ist das jetzt ein SM oder ein OD-Typ. Und spricht Deiner wirklich SML oder D0? oder gar nicht? Was sagt der Meßstellenbetreiber? Gab es einen PIN? Altbestand oder neu eingebaut? Als "moderne Meßeinrichtung" oder "intelligentes Meßsystem"?

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                  klassisch Most Active @Rababersaft last edited by klassisch

                  @rababersaft Aus der Anleitung des Zählers werde ich nicht schlau.
                  Tabelle S. 4: Zeile 3: Info-Schnittstelle (D0)
                  Das passt schon mal nicht zur "modernen Meßeinrichtung". Da ist die Info Schnittstelle unidirektional und SML.
                  D0 ist bidirektional, aber eben nicht der Standard bei der modernen Meßeinrichtung
                  Auf Seite 5 steht

                  • ODZ1 OBIS-unidir., MODE-D (IEC 1107
                  • SMZ1 SML-bidirektional
                    Auch hier wieder SML und bidirektional, was zur modernen Meßeinrichtung nicht passt.

                  Und die Kompatibilität zum FNN Lastenheft ist nicht erwähnt.

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                  • Rababersaft
                    Rababersaft @klassisch last edited by

                    @klassisch
                    Ehmm, ja....
                    Der ist vor ca. 3 Wochen bei mir neu montiert worden.
                    Den Betreiber werde ich mal kontaktieren. Gesagt hat der Monteur jedoch nichts, ich war allerdings auch nicht mit dabei.
                    Einen Pin gibt es wohl, jedoch muss ich diesen mal hinterfragen.

                    --- Ich denke die meinen 2 Schnittstellen, die eine ist die IR (OBIS) und die andere ist nochmal eine separate zum aufstecken mit Stecker oben rechts...

                    Ich Frage morgen mal den Zählermann... vllt hat der eine Idee...

                    Danke Dir erstmal vielmals für deine Mühe...

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                    • Rababersaft
                      Rababersaft @klassisch last edited by

                      @klassisch

                      Ich habe nochmal geschaut,
                      der Zähler ist nach Typenschild ein ODZ1 also nicht SMZ...

                      - ODZ1 OBIS-unidir., MODE-D (IEC 1107), ZI: mit Taschenlampenfunktion

                      Was das mit der Taschenlampe auf sich hat? Keine Ahnung... Finde ich aber raus...

                      Kann ich den Adapter nicht verwenden mit dieser Version des Zählers?

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                      • Homoran
                        Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @Rababersaft last edited by

                        @rababersaft sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

                        Was das mit der Taschenlampe auf sich hat? Keine Ahnung... Finde ich aber raus...

                        die brauchst du zum programmieren/ freischalten

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                        • Homoran
                          Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @Rababersaft last edited by Homoran

                          @rababersaft sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

                          Kann ich den Adapter nicht verwenden mit dieser Version des Zählers?

                          dann nicht mit sml sondern d0 unidirektional

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                            klassisch Most Active @Rababersaft last edited by

                            @rababersaft Ja, frage mal nach. Die PIN Nummer muß man meist beim Meßstellenbetreiber bestellen.
                            Die muß man mit der Taschenlampe einblinken. Dann sieht man im Display auch die Momentanleistung und über die optische Schnittstelle kommt dann auch die Leistung und die Energie mit mehr Nachkommastellen.
                            Aber auch ohne PIN sollte schon was kommen.
                            Als Anhaltspunkt: Die moderne Meßeinrichtung gibt es meist bei <6000kWh pro Jahr und bei Solar <7kWp
                            Ansonsten kann der Betreiber eine intelligente Meßeinrichtung einbauen, die dann auch mehr Geld kostet. Und bei der intelligenten Meßeinrichtung scheint die optische Infoschnittstelle nicht garantiert zu sein.

                            Das zugehörige FNN-Lastenheft: https://www.vde.com/resource/blob/951000/252eb3cdf1c7f6cdea10847be399da0d/fnn-lastenheft-edl-1-0-2010-01-13-data.pdf
                            Darin Seite 22 " Eine für den Endkunden zugängliche Schnittstelle (INFO-Schnittstelle), die gleichzeitig auch für den Einsatz von MDE nutz-bar sein muss. Die INFO-Schnittstelle dient ausschließlich der Ausgabe von Informationen (sie kann nicht zum Setzen oder Ausführen von Kommandos benutzt werden)."
                            "Für die INFO-Schnittstelle wird kein Zugangsschutz gefordert. Jeder mit Zugang zum Zähler, hat auch Zugang zu dieser Schnittstelle. Die von der INFO-Schnittstelle bereitgestellten Informationen werden ohne Zugriffsschutz (Passwort) dargeboten."
                            S. 30, Kap 6.1 "Jeder EDL21-Zähler verfügt über eine für den Endkunden zugängliche optische Datenschnittstelle (INFO-DSS). Diese optische Datenschnittstelle ist eine unidirektionale, infrarote Kommunikationsschnittstelle und dient folgenden Aufgaben:"
                            Auf Seite 34 wird von SML in der Variante Push, response without request gesprochen. Also sendet immer zyklisch von sich aus.

                            So kenne ich das, bekomme das aber nicht mit Deiner Betriebsanleitung unter einen Hut.

                            Neben der Info Schnittstelle gibt es noch die MSB Schnittstelle, auf die wir Nutzer keinen Zugriff haben. Darüber wird der Zähler vor Auslieferung parametrisiert und bei der intelligenten Meßeinrichtung ist das der Kommunikationsport zum Smartmeter Gateway und dem anderen Kram wie APZ, von dem man nicht so recht weiß, was das tun soll.

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                            • Negalein
                              Negalein Global Moderator last edited by

                              @apollon77

                              gibt es bereits News für uns von der Energie AG geplagten Österreicher, den Adapter zu nutzen?

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                              • apollon77
                                apollon77 @Rababersaft last edited by

                                @rababersaft Mal noch die Parität einstellen?

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                                  -cs- @apollon77 last edited by

                                  An alle Interessierten die einen Holly- Stromzähler haben, ich habe letztens einen Thread aufgemacht damit in diesem nicht alles zerrissen wird.

                                  Hatte ja nach ein paar Monaten Probleme mit dem Holly Zähler, dieser wurde heute getauscht, es lag an der Schnittstelle.

                                  Jetzt läuft wieder alles.

                                  Hier meine Antwort in meinem Thread

                                  Schöne Grüße
                                  Christian

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                                  • DucLE
                                    DucLE @MichaelJaD last edited by Homoran

                                    @michaeljad Heute hab ich meinen Lesekopf bekommen. Leider komme ich im Smartmeter Adapter nicht weiter.

                                    Auf der Konsole kann ich mit der Befehlskette

                                    stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 1:0:9a7:0:3:1c:7f:15:4:5:1:0:11:13:1a:0:12:f:17:16:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0
                                    cat < /dev/ttyUSB0 &
                                    echo -n -e '\x2F\x3F\x21\x0D\x0A' > /dev/ttyUSB0
                                    

                                    den Iskra MT-174 problemlos auslesen:

                                    *****@schaltschrank:~$ stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 1:0:9a7:0:3:1c:7f:15:4:5:1:0:11:13:1a:0:12:f:17:16:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0
                                    *****@schaltschrank:~$ cat < /dev/ttyUSB0 &
                                    [7] 1633
                                    *****@schaltschrank:~$ echo -n -e '\x2F\x3F\x21\x0D\x0A' > /dev/ttyUSB0
                                    *****@schaltschrank:~$ /ISk5MT174-0001
                                    1-0:0.0.0*255(66491503)
                                    1-0:0.0.1*255(1ISK0066491503)
                                    1-0:0.2.0*255(1.03)
                                    0-0:C.1.0*255(66491503)
                                    0-0:C.1.6*255(FDF5)
                                    1-0:1.8.1*255(0017087.717*kWh)
                                    1-0:2.8.1*255(0005390.068*kWh)
                                    0-0:F.F.0*255(0000000)
                                    

                                    Im Smartmeter-Adapter kommen allerdings leider keine Daten und der Adapter bleibt gelb. Ein Fehler im Log tritt nicht auf (außer einem Timeout nach 2,5 Minuten)

                                    062daf91-a4ec-45d5-8180-69bf8665ecbc-image.png

                                     2021-11-20 14:10:51.639 - info: smartmeter.0 (1615) starting. Version 3.2.1 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.smartmeter, node: v12.22.7, js-controller: 3.3.19
                                    2021-11-20 14:10:52.703 - info: smartmeter.0 (1615) List of port: [{"manufacturer":"Silicon Labs","serialNumber":"0047","pnpId":"usb-Silicon_Labs_CP2102_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_0047-if00-port0","vendorId":"10c4","productId":"ea60","path":"/dev/ttyUSB0"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS5"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS1"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS10"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS11"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS12"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS13"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS14"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS15"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS16"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS17"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS18"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS19"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS2"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS20"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS21"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS22"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS23"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS24"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS25"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS26"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS27"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS28"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS29"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS3"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS30"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS31"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS6"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS7"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS8"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS9"},{"path":"/dev/ttyS0"}]
                                    2021-11-20 14:13:22.198 - info: smartmeter.0 (1615) Error: No or too long answer from Serial Device after last request.
                                    2021-11-20 14:13:22.207 - warn: smartmeter.0 (1615) No or too long answer from Serial Device after last request.
                                    


                                    MOD-Edit: Code in code-tags gesetzt!

                                    Hat jemand eine Idee zu den passenden Einstellungen?

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                                    • Homoran
                                      Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @DucLE last edited by

                                      @ducle sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

                                      Hat jemand eine Idee

                                      du kannst nur einen auf die Schnittstelle zugreifen lassen
                                      Entweder per Konsole oder per Adapter.

                                      Ich könnte wetten, dass eine entsprechende Meldung im log steht

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                                      • Homoran
                                        Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @DucLE last edited by

                                        @ducle sagte in Adapter "smartmeter":

                                        zu den passenden Einstellungen?

                                        ich kenne die notwendigen Einstellungen für den ISKRA nicht.
                                        Habe gerade im Forum gesucht. Da scheint es keine Probleme mit zu geben.
                                        Einstellungen habe ich auf die Schnelle nicht gefunden.

                                        Wie kommst du auf D0 und bidirektional?
                                        Hast du schon andere versucht, z.B. SML und nur lesen?

                                        Was steht denn in der Schnittstellenbeschreibung deines Zählers?

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                                        • Homoran
                                          Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @DucLE last edited by

                                          @ducle Hab noch mal weiter für dich gegoogelt:
                                          https://wiki.volkszaehler.org/hardware/channels/meters/power/edl-ehz/iskraemeco_mt174#kommunikation

                                          Also passt d0 und bidi doch, aber

                                          Der Zähler sendet nicht automatisch, er muss mit einer Initialisierungssequenz angestoßen werden.

                                          diese ist:
                                          /?!<0D><0A>

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                                          • DucLE
                                            DucLE @Homoran last edited by

                                            @homoran Die Einstellungen kamen aus diesem Post: https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/4685/adapter-smartmeter/418

                                            Die Ursache war vermutlich die Abfrage auf der Konsole. Folgende Einstellungen funktionieren:
                                            8a898a01-299d-4498-a1a2-677ac9ece3b3-image.png

                                            Vielen Dank für die schnelle Hilfe!

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