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    • geschild
      geschild @Aphofis last edited by

      @aphofis said in Node-Red Node warte x bis rechnung:

      NodeMCU ESP8266 V3

      Alles klar. Ich denke drüber nach und melde mich wieder.

      zu: "So nun kennst du den gesamten Hintergrund"

      Ich gehöre nicht zu den Leuten, die sich anmaßen zu beurteilen warum jemand etwas macht.
      Jede hat gute Gründe. Mich interessiert nur das Problem und die Lösung.

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      • Aphofis
        Aphofis @geschild last edited by

        @geschild
        Ne dachte auch nicht aber dann weisst du das es nicht ganz banal ist eine Kaffeemaschine zu messen.

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        • geschild
          geschild @Aphofis last edited by geschild

          @aphofis Noch mehr Fragen: Der Schwimmerschalter schaltet im nodered direkt das Magnetventil. Wenn der Tankfüllstand im Bereich MInimum ist, schaltet der Schwimmerschalter bei jedem Schluck der Kaffeemaschine etwas hin und her, bis er stabil true sendet. Richtig? Das Magnetventl klappert dann etwas? Hat der Schwimmerschalter eine Hysterese, also, dass das Wasser im Tank sichtbar steigen muss, bis er wieder stabil false zeigt?

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          • geschild
            geschild @Aphofis last edited by geschild

            @aphofis Hier mal ein erster Vorschlag: Schwimmer entprellen.json

            Die beiden Inject simulieren den Schwimmerschalter.

            Simulation Tank wird leer:
            Inject true-false-true-false-true führt 2sek nach dem letzten 'true' zu einem 'true' am [Debug-Magnetschalter ein}.

            Simulation Tank wird voll:
            Inject false-true-false-true-false führt 2sek nach dem letzten 'false zu einem 'false' am [Debug-Magnetschalter aus]
            und zu einem 'true' am [Debug-Counter lesen]
            Man könnte den [Debug-Counter lesen] auch noch etwas verzögern, damit beim Lesen der Magnetschalter sicher geschlossen hat.

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            • Aphofis
              Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

              @geschild
              Ne es ist schon ein true signal da und dann auch false. nur halt ich sag mal innerhalb 500 ms wird true false geschaltet.
              Der Schwimmer ist halt sehr genau.
              Kannst du deinen letzten Post auch noch mal für nicht konforme Programmierer erklären !?

              Kann man es nicht einfach so umstellen, das wenn schwimmer true dann warte 3 min dann rechne aus und schreibe in die datenpunkte setze durchfluss auf null und schicke http get an das tasmota um den counter zu resetten !?

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              • geschild
                geschild @Aphofis last edited by

                @aphofis Hier mal das ganze in deinen flow eingebunden: Kaffemaschine neu.json

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                • Aphofis
                  Aphofis @geschild last edited by Aphofis

                  Ich guck mir das mal an.
                  Mal sehen ob ich das verstehe.
                  Vielen Dank schon mal
                  Dann mache ich mir doch mal einen Kaffee!!! 😁
                  Also man sieht das die Steuerung arbeitet und die Delays anspringen aber es wird nichts in die Datenpunkte geschrieben & Tasmota Counter wird nicht zurück gesetzt.

                  Screenshot 2025-02-15 015136.png

                  Wo holt sich denn die Steuerung denn den Wert von dem Counter

                  sonoff.0.GordonX-Home-Kaffeemaschine.SENSOR.COUNTER.C1
                  

                  und rechnet den um und schreibt den in

                  0_userdata.0.Kaffeemaschine.Wasser_Durchfluss
                  

                  Nach der ganzen Wartezeit, muss der Durchfluss doch erstmal den wert vom Counter bekommen ich glaub das fehlt da irgenwie.

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                  • Aphofis
                    Aphofis @Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                    Ich glaube im ersten durchfluss muss nicht der Datenpunkt durchfluss rein
                    da muss glaube ich der counter rein und in der ersten rechnung wird ja der durchfluss mit dem counter wert errechnet also von puls in ml umgerechnet.

                    Screenshot 2025-02-15 020110.png

                    Also schnell austrinken und dann noch einen Kaffe hinterher produzieren.

                    Jetzt wurde der durchfluss wert mit dem counter errechnet. vermutlich weil auf true false geprüft wird nur jetzt ist die frage wo wird dann nach der wartezeit der datenpunkt durchfluss resettet auf 0 !?

                    Screenshot 2025-02-15 020522.png
                    Die Werte sehen gut aus und kommt mit der Kaffee Menge auch hin.
                    Werde Sonntag das Magnet ventil noch mal kalibrieren.

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                    • Aphofis
                      Aphofis @Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                      So scheint es jetzt zu laufen !? Teste ich morgen noch mal genauer. Ob die delays ok sind weil die maschine beim einschalten ja schon den counter füllt. ab da laufen die delays ja schon also muss so lange laufen bis alles erledigt ist und man dann natürlich auf den zweiten Kaffe warten muss.

                      Screenshot 2025-02-15 030712.png

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                      • geschild
                        geschild @Aphofis last edited by

                        @aphofis Klingt, als wenn's in die richtige Richtung geht. Feinheiten klären wir dann morgen.

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                        • Aphofis
                          Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                          Es scheint bei der Kaffeemaschiene alles zu laufen. Nur die Node vom Aquarium bekomme ich nicht hin.
                          Die Steuerung muss ja nur auf den Schwimmer reagieren und wenn schwimmer true ist vllt 10 sek warten um dann die rechnung aus zu lösen und 11 sek um dann den druchfluss reset und ESP Counter reset auszulösen.
                          Das Magnetventil wird ja durch den Schwimmer ein und ausgeschaltet.

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                          • Aphofis
                            Aphofis last edited by

                            kennt sich denn keiner bei Node-Red soweit aus um mir sagen zu können, warum das bei der Kaffeemaschine funktioniert und beim Aquarium nicht !?
                            Der Unterschied ist halt das die Steuerung bei der Kaffeemaschine das Magnetventil per Relais mit dem Schwimmer schaltet und beim Aquarium läuft das Magnetventil Minus über den Schwimmer also muss die Steuerung nur den Schwimmer true Zustand abgreifen, 1 min warten und erst dann ausrechnen wenn die true false true phase vorbei ist. erst dann lohnt sich eine Rechnung da dass wasser nur in kurzen schüben aufgefüllt wird. erst dann rechnung und dann erst reset vom ESP Counter und Durchfluss Datenpunkt.

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                              Aphofis @Aphofis last edited by Aphofis

                              Habe es jetzt so umgebaut und es scheint zu laufen.
                              Ob es so aber korrekt ist weiß ich nicht.

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